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Friday, September 23 - 1:09amSanction this postReply
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"If goods don't cross borders, armies will."

-Frederic Bastiat

While it may not be a fait accompli that the type of pragmatic market mechanisms the Chinese indulge in will lead to a blossoming of liberal philosophy, as it stands, I'll take Hong Kong and it's environs over my New Zealand's third-way neo-socialist setup any old day.

The local cell of the Green Party will not vote for a free trade agreement with China because it perceives abuses of the environment & international labour laws in that land. This means, of course, that China must be doing something *right* :-)

Fact is, the market *does* create a more fertile bed for liberal philosophy. The freemarket needs free minds, & free minds need free information upon which to base conclusions.

China faces big decisions like the West does. If it wants to go down the Nazi-style state-capitalism path then it will fail. And, so will we. See, the West is weakening because we took liberal philosophy, unlearned & corrupted it. The results are manifest. China is coming from the other direction to meet us in the middle. The destination is the same for both approaches & the answer is the same: Live free or die.

Ross




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Friday, September 23 - 3:35amSanction this postReply
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It is not surprising that pirat=ed discs prevail in cn. The gov restrict the import of the cultural products, lest some superior spirits brought by the western movies, songs and books impact on the inferior c~om-mu-nist culture and Eas`tern culture. But the producers of pirated discs can always offer us the latest movies, songs and musics, which make C____ese people live a more "normal" life as the western people . C____ese gov really wants to uproot the pir-ates as the west-ern govs (although the reason is different.), yet until the day C---ese people can get whatever they get through a "normal" channel, pira-tes would be always out there. Although pirating is a cr-ime, yet in cn ordinary action and good deed frequently become crimes, such as watching we-st-ern movies (especially "po-rns"), and real cri-m-es are always f-avored by gov, such as tell on somebody or smear Wes-t-ern countries. Pir-a-ting is the action that takes a c-ime to resist another c-ri-me. Only the "other" cri-me ceased to exist, it could be hopeful that pirating ceases to exist.




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Friday, September 23 - 9:02amSanction this postReply
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“Education makes people easy to lead, but difficult to drive; easy to govern but impossible to enslave.”

– Henry Peter Brougham.





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Friday, September 23 - 3:43pmSanction this postReply
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Femino, enlighten us: what's with your use of ~ or ____ or = or -? Am I missing something?

Ross



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Friday, September 23 - 4:06pmSanction this postReply
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Ross,

What you are missing is that femino seems to reside in a country where the Internet use is heavily monitored. It's becoming common for residents to obfuscate their words to avoid persecution.




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Saturday, September 24 - 2:52amSanction this postReply
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Yes. I am a  s_e_r_f  living in "Mid=dle Emp=ir=e", the outpost of t/y/r/a/n/n/y.



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