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Tuesday, November 15 - 11:28amSanction this postReply
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After posting on this forum for a while, I have noticed a few areas that seem to hold back its growth, thus retard its impact in spreading Rand's ideas to the rest of the world. Rather than do the standard list of complaints, I would like to offer a few positive suggestions and leave the area of the negative for the time being.

One of the key elements in any capitalistic growth whatsoever is money. If there is no income, there can be no investment in expansion, except from donations/contributions. From what I see of the structure here, the Solohq website structure is pretty much privately funded by donations/contributions (technically speaking, privately funded by owners like any personal use site is, so it is private property) and is not generating much in the way of profits. Well, donations/contributions are a good source of income, but there are others. Here are some ideas on products and profiles.

Target public

From what I see, there are two types of people who can and would purchase Solo products.

1. Website users and Free Radical subscribers.
2. The rest of the world.

Website users and Free Radical subscribers

To rely solely on this small public for generating income is a huge error in marketing. The website users are providing content through articles and discussion at no cost, so there will be an automatic built-in resistance for users to reach into their own pockets. The feeling is that they are already contributing.

Still, there are a few things that can be done. Some books are being sold and, of course, the magazine comes with a price (although I have no idea of how Free Radical ties in with Solo financially). Still, I see these activities as generating low profits, both in turnover and in outlay/profit percentage. (This is due primarily to the limited small target audience of website users, but also to the restricted nature of the products - i.e., Solo's current products are products only for people who have medium to advanced familiarity with Ayn Rand's works.)

Before starting with the suggestions, let me state that I believe that the idea of charging a fee for using the website would thin this target public down drastically. The paltry income from this simply would not be worth the exodus.

So how about a Solo boutique? T-Shirts? Coffee cups and drinking glasses? Rings and jewelry? Bumper stickers? I could go on and on here, but I think the idea is clear. How much would this cost? Probably nothing if you use a company already set up to provide these things on the market.

How about a raffle of some kind for the collected works of Ayn Rand or even other products? I see there is a tie-in with Amazon for purchasing books, but I would bet that the profits are pretty negligible from this. A raffle or something of that nature could potentially generate a much larger one-event-at-a-time income. It probably would not be a huge profit, but it certainly would stimulate interest and fund some minor costs.

Some might feel that this would come with a "sleazy" type aspect. Well, the market does it all the time and since when has basic capitalism been sleazy - especially if an income generating technique is used by an organization that preaches capitalism?

How about contests?

How about a book-of-the-month type structure for Objectivist and selected Libertarian literature? This would "push" book sales to this target audience.

How about even getting in contact with musicians who produce Objectivist-type stuff and sell their productions - and even help place some of their stuff with small recording companies who would be interested in having a target audience. Robin Field comes to mind. Some Soloists, maybe, depending on the appeal of their music. It could even be advertised by using sound on loading the home page.

One area is to format products to Objectivists and Libertarians in other organizations. ARI does this already, but it has Rand's works as default. It doesn't even need to do anything special to get TOC, Solo and Libertarian people to purchase its published products. This would need some thought and market planning, but I see it as highly feasible.

These are just a few ideas for the Solo (and Objectivist and Libertarian) market.

Using the website as a marketing tool

The website is a wonderful place to generate publicity and stir interest. It offers something for free for posting on it. It offers reader approval in a tangible form - Atlas points. This, I feel, is one of the genius marketing ideas behind the website. It generates no income, but it keeps people coming back for more, even when interest in the ideas abates a bit.

One of the largest marketing capabilities present on Solo is its backlog of articles. There are over 1,500 at present and the inventory is growing by the day. I see huge possibilities in administrating this wealth.

Just one idea. How about audio tapes of compilations of Solo articles? This is very inexpensive to produce and can even be distributed in MP3 format. I even see a better product. When some selected threads to articles have gotten interesting (both intellectual-wise, comedy-wise and Jerry Springer-wise), have the threads read by different voices after the article. Not only would the articles be informative, some of the comments would be highly entertaining. A simple signed release from posters would solve copyright (and even then, I am in doubt that this would even be needed in some cases - this would need study.)

The rest of the world as a target audience

One of the greatest sources of income that is being neglected is in licensing the use of the Solo brand and Solo images. Solo now has a well-defined profile and it could be used by companies as a highly attractive (and even polemical) add-on in selling their own products. If a license were offered at a very competitive price, as say against a Disney character or whatever, I think many companies would jump at it, depending on their product and their own target publics.

Placement of Solo products in retail outlets is also an area that could benefit Solo greatly. (However, the variety of Solo products and the different appeal of them to the general public needs defining first.)

Getting key Solo people on radio and TV - even in mainstream newspapers and magazines - is also important for publicity (and I don't mean myself, since it is constantly and repeatedly pointed out that I do not speak for Solo) .

These are just some ideas off the top of my head, but I sincerely believe they deserve more discussion and study. I feel that I have only scratched the surface.

Solo will need income to expand the way it should. It does the standard low-cost e-business stuff pretty well (Google crawling, Amazon tie-in, etc), but the whole world is wide open as a market. It is simply waiting for new products with open arms and buying oodles of intellectual-type stuff in all kinds of formats.

I think the people who post on this site have a great deal of talent to tap into. So thoughts anyone?

Michael





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Tuesday, November 15 - 12:53pmSanction this postReply
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Any products we produce need to have our names displayed prominently and avail themselves to as many media outlets as possible -- hard copy, ebook, audio book, etc.  The back cover needs to list the name of the publishing organization with a Web address to drive traffic to our site.  For downloadable audio books, the name and URL needs to bracket the product in audio or even periodically intersperse itself within the product.  For instance, Philosophy for Studs intermittently announces its publisher as "AcademicMP3AudioBooks.com" during breaks.




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Tuesday, November 15 - 1:17pmSanction this postReply
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Michael, good ideas, for the most part. However, one quibble:

"How about even getting in contact with musicians who produce Objectivist-type stuff and sell their productions - and even help place some of their stuff with small recording companies who would be interested in having a target audience. Robin Field comes to mind. Some Soloists, maybe, depending on the appeal of their music. It could even be advertised by using sound on loading the home page."

There's a fine line as to what can be considered "Objectivist-type stuff" in the arts, especially music. (In the AYN RAND ANSWERS Q&A, Rand explicitly dispels the idea of Objectivist art...). Now, if it's a piece that has specific Objectivist lyrics, that's one thing, but if it's instrumental, it's harder to call it "Objectivist."

This presents a dilemma like the one of Monart Pon's "the Immorality of a Concerto of Deliverance." (I personally have no problem with THAT particular project.) But at what point does the line need to be drawn at celebrating Objectivism and wrongly appropriating someone else's work?

Your idea of SOLO merchandise, however, presents a possible solution. Unlike ARI or TOC (ducking for cover), SOLO does have something unique to offer, which is why it's called "Sense of Life" Objectivists. So instead of selling Objectivist items, your selling the SOLO brand; but not simply a coffee mug with the SOLO logo, (it's not the product, it's the result of the product being sold), you're selling the idea of a sense of life, which is a result of the philosophy of Objectivism. On that footing, you could sell art and music that celebrates a certain sense of life.

How would this relate to more pedestrian items like mugs? Maybe you sell an oversize KASS mug for a kick-ass cup of coffee! If this idea is to be marketable to the world at large, it would have to have more than a SOLO logo, it would have to have a bridge-builder to the world at large. (Similar to music merchandise: some people might not like a band's music but like the art enough to buy a t-shirt.)

So the idea is not to sell SOLO and Objectivism but the sense of life of SOLO and Objectivism.





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Tuesday, November 15 - 4:43pmSanction this postReply
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Alright, here's my .02 because Michael MUST have been reading my mind:

Is there some damn reason Linz, or any of the heavy hitters here have NOT produced a SOLO _podcast_ yet???  Seriously, there's no lack of talent from what I've read, now I want to hear that talent, not just read it.  It's rediculously easy, and this site's already XML feed enabled, so what's the hold up?  Dread of unwanted traffic, maybe?  Fear of newbies? Fear of success? Fear of microphones? What???

A once a week podcast show would be a fantastic addition to this venture, I know it.

Of course, because I'm in the biz, the tee-shirt, mug, pen, hat, bumper-sticker idea ain't so bad either. :) Nuthin' wrong with makin' a few bucks.




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Wednesday, November 16 - 3:34pmSanction this postReply
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Luke - I fully agree that the Solo brand name and information leading to the website and maybe even Free Radical should be displayed on all products. ARI even does this - it includes a cardboard sheet with advertising in the middle of Rand's books.

Joe - Forget about "Objectivist" except in a general sense for music - the real issue is "Sense of Life" and also another parameter: practicing Objectivists and what they produce. In the case of our dear Peter Pan (Robin Field), his work specifically covered philosophy, but I see no problem with a hard rocker who is an Objectivist.

I like the Sense-of-Life tie-in with marketing a Solo license, but hell, money is money. If someone wants to put the Solo logo on rulers and pencils because it is cheaper than Mickey Mouse, I say go for it. An agency that specializes in licensing should be contacted to see the possibilities. (Remember how Arnold Palmer became a household word even before golf was widely appreciated? That was a licensing company that did that.)

On the mugs thing, a smaller one could also come with exquisite coffee making instructions (helloooooooo Ciro), be smaller and state something like "Total passion for the total cup of coffee."

The thing is to be creative and not block the juices from flowing. Most important, a person needs to be found who can devote a lot of time to this (I cannot, but I can help a lot on the side).

Teresa - Wonderful idea about podcast. Want to put that into a more detailed form? Internet radio broadcasts - maybe reading an article at a time?

Michael




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Wednesday, November 16 - 4:43pmSanction this postReply
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"Teresa - Wonderful idea about podcast. Want to put that into a more detailed form? Internet radio broadcasts - maybe reading an article at a time?"

That's exactly what I have in mind, in fact, there are so many talented people, with so many different abilities, I'm thinking there could be different hosts for different shows.

Bill Dwyer is an awesome teacher, I think he'd do great as an "Objectivist Q & A" guy for a show theme. "Objectivism for Dummies."  :)  (why isn't there a Dummies book out yet, I'm now wondering.)

Prof. Machan could do exactly what he's doing now, cultural commentary. I'm thinking he could even give Rush a run for his money. Ed Hudgens would be great at this too.

I wish Jennifer I. were still here.... I just love her style, and I think she'd be great if she had a mind to do such a thing.

Lindsay, just for his accent, would get listeners, no doubt.

There are so many talented, bright people here, and to not offer this as a means of promotion for the SOLO lifestyle is a huge waste to me. Not everyone has time to sit and read from a computer monitor, but many do have time to down load the stuff they want to read, but listen to instead while they're at work, or in the car, or on the bus.  I think it's worth a shot. 

I would sure be happy to do this myself, but I don't have the technical skill necessary, or the webspace available to host the uploads. But I may give it a try anyway ;)

There could be interviews, comedy, critical analysis, and even abstract theory highlighted.
Movie, book, concert, theater, music reviews, of course.

Solo could run an ad for whatever talent host is needed. Maybe tryouts would be necessary for the categories, but the categories could be just as they are here on the website, with maybe the addition of "Objectivism for Dummies."  I may even start that one myself <g>.

Whatever subjects SOLO would wish to make a show from, it could be just like it is here, the possibilities are endless.

There's something to talk about every day.

Teresa




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